It’s a drone; it’s a UFO; it’s really who you ask: What’s buzzing around U.S. nuclear sites?
Going back from the 1940s and ‘50s to the present day, whistleblowers have reported UFO sightings around nuclear sites, but Department of Energy (DOE) Secretary Jennifer Granholm said they’re “drones.”
Rep. Anna Paulina Luna, R-Fla., hit Granholm with rapid-fire questions, including if the DOE was reverse engineering crashed alien technology, and if it worked with a counter-terrorism task force.
Granholm’s answers were, “I have no knowledge of that,” and “Yes,” respectively, which an expert told Fox News Digital is a “big deal” admission.
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The fiery exchange between Luna and Granholm was about five minutes of a 2.5-hour Congressional Oversight Committee hearing on May 23.
Luna’s last question, “Does the DOE work with JSOC (Joint Special Operations Command)?” raised eyebrows and created buzz on social media.
Granholm danced around the question at first, but Luna repeated the inquiry and demanded a yes or no answer.
Granholm finally responded, “Yes, we do.”
Investigative journalist and leading UFO expert Jeremy Corbell said, “This was a bold move by Congress.”
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JSOC is a military task force under the command of the U.S. Special Operations Command that plans and executes special operations missions.
It’s allegedly been noted by whistleblowers that JSOC worked with the DOE to retrieve crashed alien crafts and reverse engineer the tech, according to Corbell.
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“JSOC is likely hardcore involved with the crash retrieval program, under the authority of the CIA, so the DOE having to admit they work with JSOC is a big deal,” Corbell told Fox News Digital. “Sec. Granholm did not like having to admit that.”
JSOC has denied these allegations and implications in previous statements. Fox News Digital reached out to JSOC for comment, but didn’t hear back.
Luna told Fox News Digital in an email that “some people, like the secretary (Granholm), would like to make a mockery of these things,” referring to the topic of UAPs, but “over 50% of Americans think that UAPs potentially exist.”
That “means that the federal government should take this seriously,” the Florida Republican lawmaker said. “I directly confronted Energy Secretary Granholm with multiple reports, as well as a statement by the Pentagon, and she still denied the facts.
“That’s why I believe the American people have lost faith in our government to be transparent.”
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Luna’s exchange with Granholm wasn’t the end of her back and forth with the DOE.
She submitted nine questions to the DOE, which were exclusively obtained by Fox News Digital. They’re listed below.
A DOE spokesperson said in an email, “DOE is in receipt of the QFRs and will respond to the Committee and Congresswoman directly.”
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Before Luna and Granholm’s exchange, Rep. Tim Burchett, R-Tenn., asked the DOE secretary about “suspicious occurrences” of UFOs around nuclear facilities.
The question appeared to catch Granholm off guard.
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She responded by saying the Department of Defense concluded there’s no evidence of UFOs or aliens.
“But there may be drones that may be nefarious,” said Granholm, who emphasized there are safety protocols and defenses in place.
As both lawmakers pointed out, potential UFO sightings near nuclear sites predate drones.
A recently declassified document about a UFO program called Kona Blue details the government’s plan to collect crashed alien tech to reverse engineer it.
Former U.S. Sen. Harry Reid said in a June 2009 letter that “much progress has been made with the identification of several highly sensitive, unconventional aerospace-related findings.”
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“Given the current rate of success, the continued study of these subjects will likely lead to technology advancements that in the immediate near term will require extraordinary protection ….
“Given the likelihood that these technologies will be applied to future systems involving space flight, weapons, communications and propulsion, the standard management and safeguarding procedures will not adequately ensure that all aspects of the project are properly secured.”
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The AARO, a specialized wing of the Pentagon tasked with investigating UAPs, said Kona Blue was mentioned by “multiple” whistleblowers during its investigation into allegations of a crash retrieval program.
The AARO said in a report about the history and origin of Kona Blue that it was “proposed” to Homeland Security leadership “but was never approved or formally established.”
The project never received any materials or funding, according to the AARO, and Homeland Security disapproved the project and directed its immediate termination in 2011, “citing concerns about the adequacy of justification for the program.”
The full origin and history, according to the AARO, is here.